"I hear that all the time, 'The children come first, the children come first,' " Fisher said. "We are going to put real muscle behind that statement," occupational therapist Debra Fisher, right, said in a StoryCorps interview with special education teacher Emma Pelosi. / Courtesy of Debra Fisher and Emma Pelosi

New York City Public Schools reopened part-time this week, but preparing to get more than 1 million children back to school, whether in-person or virtually, hasn't gone smoothly.

Last minute schedule changes have left parents, teachers and students frustrated and confused.

Fortunately, Emma Pelosi and Debra Fisher, who work with young children with special needs in New York City public schools, have been able to lean on each other during the chaotic moments.

Pelosi, a special education teacher, and Fisher, an occupational therapist, work in two separate New York City public elementary schools, and met over Twitter a few months ago during the initial COVID outbreak.

In a remote conversation with StoryCorps last week, Fisher, 61, told Pelosi, 30, that her profession was something she felt called to do. After witnessing the care from occupational therapists during her father's illness, Fisher was inspired to pursue the career herself.

She couldn't wait until she could help children.

"It took me six years to get the degree, and I always thought, there is a kid waiting for me somewhere," Fisher said. "And it was the first day of school and I met my first kid, then I saw the mom and I said, 'Do you know that I've been thinking about your son since the very first day I went to school?' And it was a very emotional moment for me because in my mind's eye, I knew there was that kid waiting."

For Pelosi, the drive to teach began at age 11, when she volunteered on weekends teaching drama to preschoolers. Eight years later, she worked at a summer camp with kids with disabilities.

"One thing I've known: It does take 10 times the work in special education. But it also is a thousand times the gratification," she said.

Their already challenging work has been made even harder during the pandemic.

"This week, it was almost like we were canoeing through molasses," Fisher said. "That's how it felt."

Pelosi's big concern right now is the possibility of putting her students in danger.

"One of my greatest fears is going into a classroom and passing something along to a child and then having something happen to their family or something happen to my staff," she said. "And I know that you can't prove that it was me, if someone gets sick in my care, but I also don't know if I could sleep at night all the same, because I can't prove that it's not."

As they wade through the pandemic, the two women hold onto the thought that they can at least do what they know how to do as best as they can.

"There will be moments where it will be hard, but parents are gonna see your ability to reach through that screen and make their kids feel comfortable, because that's what you do," Fisher said.

Pelosi told Fisher that, most importantly, she wants her students to feel that they are cared for and loved.

"I hear that all the time, 'The children come first, the children come first,' " Fisher said. "We are going to put real muscle behind that statement. So, you watch us put those children first. Teachers and therapists and all the support people in schools. We are that army. We will get it done. Remember us because we really will. We promise, we promise."

Audio produced for Morning Edition by Jey Born. NPR's Emma Bowman adapted this interview for the Web.

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